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Thanks Elene! I'll try to respond to your points.

"More people have died because more time has gone by"

Actually, the vaccines started to be rolled out about year ago, and the virus had already been around for about a year at that time.

"I have no idea what you mean by "countries without vaccines have done just fine." Please specify which countries and in which ways they have done fine. That's quite the opposite of anything I've seen."

Here are some relevant tables:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

The United States has the 19th highest death rate out of 224 countries, despite having a high vaccination rate (63% fully vaccinated). India has the 130th highest death rate, despite having only 48% of its people vaccinated. Russia has the 32nd highest death rate despite having only 47% of its population vaccinated. The Philippines has the 122nd highest death rate withonly 57% of the population vaccinated. I could go on and on cherry picking the data, but better to look at the big data studies such as this one: https://vector-news.github.io/editorials/CausalAnalysisReport_html.html

The findings: There has been a higher death rate where the vaccine has been administered at a higher rate.

That's enough for one post. I look forward to continuing the conversation!

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