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The Psycho-logic of Trump’s Tariffs (Robert Wright & Paul Bloom)
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The Psycho-logic of Trump’s Tariffs (Robert Wright & Paul Bloom)

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0:00 Paul is Bob's worthwhile Canadian initiative
4:10 The psycho-logic of Trump’s tariff strategy
15:11 Has Trump exposed structural flaws in America?
20:45 Is Musk saying Navarro is dumber than Ivanka?
27:40 On incest
38:11 Heading to Overtime

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Paul Bloom (https://smallpotatoes.paulbloom.net, University of Toronto, The Sweet Spot, Against Empathy). Recorded April 09, 2025.

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Overtime titles:

0:00 Bob is the king of White Lotus analysis (claims Bob)
6:38 Creepy Zuck and creepy Sheryl Sandberg
17:37 Loneliness, AI, and consciousness
27:00 Why has the Metaverse failed (so far)?
30:09 Paul circles back to God’s backside
36:00 Christianity: a memetic analysis
45:52 Are your haters your most devoted readers?

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