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And to answer your question about the TribelessTribe, this sounds awfully like the aspirations for the IDW.

Ryan Bennet articulated it as a protocol:

https://twitter.com/ry_nomad/status/1050999180276060160

Such a protocol was never made explicitly by the actual participants in the IDW, and it basically collapsed at the first sign of stress. But it's possible that a coalition with clearly articulated rules of engagement - and that perhaps specifically addressed the elements of human psychology that need to be worked around - might be able to handle it better.

The rationalist community might also capture some of this - especially the ideas about trying to counteract biases. I'm not sure that's exactly the same as what you're trying to do, but there's some overlap there.

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Yes, the kind of ideals/goals I have in mind definitely overlap with some of the ideals/goals expressed by people in the IDW and the rationalist community. But I think the IDW's strong anti-SJW vibe gave it an ideological cast that wound up being problematic. In any event, there's of course room for lots of groups and networks to have broadly the same goals. The more the merrier.

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Yeh, it's always a danger when your movement emerges in reaction to an opposing force that you become a distinct force even if your preference was more universal.

It would have been a lot more successful in its own terms if it could have cultivated relationships with people who are at least somewhat closer to SJW world but who have signed up to the pro-debate and truthseeking values. It could have modeled how to have those discussions in a more constructive way.

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